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exactly what's going on. we begin this our in the middle east. people that live in southern gaza say shelling from israel and explosions today are constant, they are nonstop. at least 50 palestinians are reported killed today across gaza. one day since a cease-fire fell apart really before it could even take effect. the israeli military says their targets are tunnels, weapon storage sites, and hamas command centers. southern gaza is where a missing israeli soldier is believed to be captured by hamas. the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu spoke a few moments ago. >> translator: until now, israeli army had a lot of success. we caught and destroy thousands of terrorist targets. the rockets, missiles, the
factories which make the rockets and missiles, and many hundreds of terrorists. >> i want to get straight to john vause in gaza city, reporting throughout. listening to the prime minister's statement, we also know before he spoke that residents of northern gaza got some messages today from ibf saying it is safe to return to homes. they're saying the operation continues full scale but says they managed to restore the strategic system of hamas, emphasizing a system they have been building for years. how did you read that? did you read that as a winding down of operations, at least in parts of gaza? >> it certainly sounded like the ground operations to find the tunnels were winding back, now that most of the tunnels in the words of the israeli prime minister have been destroyed, there's admission there may be some which are still there, but now that most of them are gone,
there's no point leaving them on the ground as targets for hamas militants. we have seen the israelis pull back from areas in the north, allowing residents to return to what's left of their homes. there were reports earlier today, coming from the palestinians, that israeli soldiers were pulling back to the border as well. there was a great deal of anticipation in gaza that perhaps the israeli prime minister may be announcing some unilateral end to this operation, but that did not happen. benjamin netanyahu making it perfectly clear that this operation will continue, it is just now going into another stage, and there still has been a sporadic sound of artillery being fired by the israelis into gaza. mostly towards east gaza. so that continues. we also know the operation down south in rafah continues to find the israeli soldier who is believed to have been captured,
even though hamas says they don't have him and they assume he is in fact dead. many people were watching exactly what the israeli prime minister had to say. this was an address to the nation. this war has been going on now almost four weeks. hamas has fired thousands and thousands of rockets into israel. they continue to fire those rockets right now. let's get to sara sidner, standing by in a place where many of the rockets end up. sara, many people listening to benjamin netanyahu. we know the israeli public has been very keen for the israeli military to continue on with this operation. so what is the reaction there tonight? >> reporter: well, and just to be clear, you know, it is the israeli jewish population that has been polled, palestinian population hasn't been polled. polls show up to 90% of israeli jews didn't want a cease-fire, didn't want this ending so hamas could come back in a couple of
years and start up firing rockets again into the country. they really wanted the government of israel and soldiers to crush hamas' ability to make war with israel. so at this point we have to wait and see because they did not say, both the defense minister and prime minister, did not say it was over, but it does sound like they're going to be pulling back a bit on the operation, saying they're close to completing the operation. and you remember the stated operation was to rid gaza of the tunnels, especially those that can get into israel, and especially those where there are weapons coming through those tunnels into the hands of hamas and islamic jihad. as you know, there are other groups operating there on the gaza strip, militant groups that tend to try and fight against israel, so there is a good sense here that we are going to see a bit of a change in the
operations, but israeli citizens looking at this, especially those polled, are going to be watching this very closely. there was a war in 2008, there was a war in 2012, and there is a war now. and they don't want to have to see this happen and go through this every couple of years, john. >> okay, sara, thank you. and we went down to the hospital as the statement was read by the israeli prime minister, many palestinians here were listening to it. there was a great deal of disappointment. there was a doctor at the hospital working 24/7 treating some of the wounded, 8,000 at least have been wounded during this military offensive from israel. he says for the first time ever, he wants this war to continue because he wants the palestinians to achieve their goals. he wants his children to feel safe. poppy? >> interesting reaction. i think a lot of people were
expecting to hear something else from the israeli prime minister, benjamin netanyahu. he did say that they will regroup now that he says they have significantly damaged and destroyed that tunnel system, but he did not specify what that regrouping would be, and said in terms of timing, that would be up to the israeli military. as soon as we get more from folks on the ground there, we will let you know. i want to take you to a critical story here in the united states. inside emory university hospital in atlanta, doctors are treating the first ever ebola victim known to be on u.s. soil. that victim, a doctor, dr. kent brantly just arriving in georgia a few hours ago from liberia on board a specially equipped medical plane. he was then driven by ambulance to the hospital. when the ambulance arrived, two men in protective suits exited through the back. it is actually believed one of the men was dr. brantly. he will be treated in an isolation unit, created by emory and the centers for disease control and prevention which is also based in atlanta. the medical plane is on the way
back to liberia to pick up another american ebola patient, nancy writebol. both of them are affiliated with a christian charity, is a march tan's purse. they became sick caring for others with ebola. it has effected more than 1300 people. it has killed more than 700 this year alone. important to note, ebola is not airborne. this spreads through contact with bodily organs and other bodily fluids. i want to bring in chief medical correspondent, dr. sanjay gupta. sanjay, you have been on top of this for months. you were even there when the outbreak started to get worse and worse. standing where you are now, we showed that video. maybe we can rerack it for viewers. two people coming out of the ambulance in the suits. it is believed that one of those is dr. kent brantly. what does that tell you, sanjay?
>> that's a good sign medically, no question. a bit of a surprising one, poppy. i'll tell you, we had heard some days ago his condition had deteriorated and then we heard that he may have stabilized, but was still in serious condition walking off the ambulance the way that he is, obviously requiring a little assistance. i think from a medical standpoint, bodes well for him and is surprising based on what we were expecting, what we had been told, how he had been described. we also confirmed a bit ago that even before he left liberia, he was able to stand up and shower on his own. get into the shower and shower on his own. perhaps he improved quite a bit before his flight actually here to the united states. regardless, he is now here at emory university hospital. he is in an isolation ward. his condition was still being described as stable, but serious. and looking at the images, maybe he's improved since that time. he is going to be in the
isolation ward for some time. they'll start replacing fluids, giving whatever treatments are necessary. as you mention, poppy, already in route to pick up one of his colleagues and bring her back to the united states and atlanta as well. poppy, i'll just tell you real quick, i know you've heard this, but this what you're seeing has never happened before. we've never had a patient with ebola in atlanta, in the united states, in the western hemisphere of the world, so from a medical standpoint, a scientific standpoint, certainly a first, and this is how it transpired. intentionally through a medical evacuation program. >> and sanjay, it brings up so many important questions. i know you have a bit of new information i want you to get to in a moment, but big picture here, these are u.s. citizens that are over there doing good work. a lot of people feel torn and feel confused because they don't know fully what kind of risk, if any, this poses to other people
in the united states. i know emory is one of the preeminent universities to deal with this in terms of infectious diseases, the facilities they have. you were there yesterday. what risk does this pose and was this the right decision? >> well, i think it is very important to remember what ebola is. how it moves and transmits from one person to another. the answer is it doesn't happen easily, it is not easy to catch ebola from somebody else, it requires contact with the person, contact with a person's bodily fluids. so the way we describe ebola is something that's highly infectious, meaning a small amount of body fluids could cause infection if it were to get on your skin, but isn't contagious, doesn't spread through the air. even as you look at images, there were others not far away not wearing the bio hazard suits who did not need to be because again, this is not going through the air. so the idea that this could
potentially cause some outbreak now here in atlanta or in other places around the united states just seems very, very unlikely. also, the isolation ward where he is is basically designed to protect him and health care workers from getting infected from the patient, dr. kent brantly, so they have anti-rooms where they gown up, put on suits, cover every square inch of their skin. best way to characterize it, i don't think the general public is at risk, health care workers themselves have to go through extraordinary precautions, but if they follow the precautions and there are no lapses and there are no errors, they should be okay as well. >> appreciate you clarifying that for everyone, sanjay. there are so many questions. as you said, ebola has never been in atlanta, the united states ever before, so this is certainly a first. we appreciate the reporting, sanjay. we will get back to you shortly. for all of the viewers, for the latest on the deadly ebola outbreak and american patients, i want you to stay with us.
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just in the last hour, israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu took to the air waves saying israeli troops severely hurt forces in gaza, and they will act full scale to restore peace and calm in israel. i want to bring in two terrorism experts to talk about the words that he used. they were chosen very carefully. former cia operative, bob bear, and robert mcfan enhere in new york, special agent in charge of
nis. first to you, bob bear. what did you make of language used by benjamin netanyahu. he said they destroyed tens of tunnels, severely disabled or destroyed this system, he said that hamas has built for years, trying to emphasize what they have taken out. he talked about a regrouping of israel's involvement, israel's offensive, but he didn't say when that would happen or what that would look like. >> poppy, his problem is he can't say mission accomplished because the moment he says that, there's going to be a series of rocket attacks. there could be other tunnels out there that hamas may come across and attack israel through the tunnels. he knows there's still work to be done. the question now is finding targets. it's very difficult for the israelis. as i just heard today, hamas is not using its normal communication systems like cell phones that they could pinpoint
locations, go after the targets. so they know there's still a hamas infrastructure there they have to deal with, they're regrouping to find out how to go after them without completely occupying gaza. >> right. that has happened in the past, that's something we have not seen happen in this four weeks of deadly fighting. to you, robert, the rationale, reasoning for israel going in on the ground was the tunnel? >> that's right. >> now that netanyahu says that they have severely disabled, destroyed these tunnels, what do you read into his comments that they will regroup? what targets will they go after, if any more from the ground or does this once again become an air offensive? >> in addition to the tunnels, of course, it is all of the rockets. so that will be very important part over this interim period. israel has been clear that the strategic objective is about the tunnels. but there's something else that goes on in gaza that makes it
extraordinarily complicated for the israeli defense force and hamas military wing itself, because there are some other smaller groups within gaza that on the one side israel holds hamas responsible to control, but hamas at times has tenuous to no ability to control some of those groups and launching into israel. >> important point to make in something we saw possibly play out when yesterday the israeli soldier was captured and that hamas said it wasn't us, points to the issue of what other factions could it be within gaza, something we're going to discuss more through the show. stick with us, more on this straight ahead. this is really just the beginning of a conversation. we will take you back to the region live straight after this break. your 16-year-old daughter
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gaza. within the past hour, the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu has made a televised address and he has said that the military operations here in gaza will continue, but they're now moving into another phase. mr. netanyahu said most of the tunnels have now been destroyed, and israel will continue to protect the peace and the defense of the israeli public. let's get more on this, go back to bob bear in los angeles and robert mcfadden, standing by in washington. bob, i would like to start with you. you heard the prime minister there, essentially this operation continuing. this is a long military campaign, longer than any other against militants in gaza. why is this one taking so long? >> well, i think hamas has gotten better. you look at the israeli casualties, the maybe two israeli soldiers have been taken. hamas has been able to alter its communications, it has not been pinpoint strikes, civilian
casualties are much too high for israel's liking, you know. there's been a reaction around the world, this should have been over in a couple of days, and i think we're looking at hamas is fighting more like hezbollah. you look at the 2006 war, where hezbollah drew the israeli army into all sorts of traps, spun them, and there was mutual destruction, but the israelis didn't get a clear cut victory and they're not going to get one with hamas. >> yes, certainly coming out that way. to bob's point, that hamas is getting much better. from an intelligence point of view, this is your area. has there been an intelligence failure by the israelis? they were coming in here, the tunnels were meant to be destroyed in a couple of days, it has taken 16 days. hamas spent the past five years digging the tunnels. many israelis seem to be surprised that network is so extensive, so deep underground. even surprised at the strength of cement hamas used.
so again, israelis are sensitive to this, but did they miss it? >> really a question, in the cycle from '06 to 2008 and 2012 to now, bob made a great point. obviously hamas military wing has improved in its fighting. so as far as an intelligence failure, that's always the kind of thing that leadership starts looking at immediately, but will be walked backward if you will from this point forward from the israeli and intelligence perspective. you mention the amount of cement and other construction materials. one of the really big questions will be with all of the restrictions and sensors for things going into hamas over the few years, how was that much amount of material that is very restricted in going in go to things like the tunnels? how were the missiles able to get into those numbers?
also, too, the intelligence from the command and control system for the military wing at hamas, some others engaged in fighting, those are the things that will be looked at, and no doubt, i have little doubt anyway after the objective of the tunnels is long toward being taken care of, the command and control structure of some of the -- of all of the military wing of hamas will be the objective. >> and bob, back to you. when we look at the narrative here, we're hearing from hamas, there was a statement a short time ago in reaction to netanyahu's speech, saying netanyahu is believing in a fake victory. what he said about the tunnels is funny and they went on to say that netanyahu is confused and he is facing a crisis in gaza. they're shaping the narrative much like hezbollah did, they stood up to israel, took the blows. they didn't lose. so they won.
so unless israel is prepared to go all the way, is that how this is going to play out, when i say all the way, like topple hamas? >> well, this is a political mine field for naught. i mean, he cannot be absolutely sure there are not more tunnels out there. it is impossible. intelligence about these, difficult to get out, hamas is compartmented, and if there's a truce and a group comes under the ground and attacks, they're going to say what was this all for? so i think netanyahu foremost in his mind is regrouping, trying to figure out going after what. like robert said, the real problem is hamas, a coherent organization, effective, does seem to know what it is doing in this war and fighting it to a certain standstill, but what if you destroyed it, what would we get afterwards? and that's the question, would you get an al qaeda like group to replace it, which would be
even worse for israel because it would be more destructive in the end. >> and we will tackle that question in a moment. back to you, robert, for one last question here. with hamas still standing, with them still in place, the israelis are regrouping, no doubt hamas is regrouping, they're continuing to fire rockets, is there a possibility here in any way that unless israel is prepared to reoccupy gaza, can they demilitarize gaza? >> i think the short answer for that, you know, without an almost total occupation, a complete demilitarization is not likely. we mentioned in the previous segment, it is hamas military wing by far, the biggest terrorist paramilitary force in gaza, but there are other groups, and that's been one of the problems for hamas itself, the political side and military side in the months up to this crisis is getting control of some of the other groups that tend to fill the void in the seams where hamas doesn't have
complete control. >> okay. robert mcfadden, bob bear, we would like you to stick around. we're going to tackle that question about if hamas does go, what comes after them, because that for many israelis could be a terrifying prospect. poppy? >> we will talk about that more in the show. appreciate that, john, bob, robert. now the flow of immigrants crossing the u.s. mexico border has been making headlines for months. children coming to the u.s., fleeing extreme poverty and violence in central america, but this week cnn hero is juan pablo romero fuentes helping children find hope and create a future for themselves at home. ♪ >> my country is violent history has created very bad aggression. gangs are everywhere. kids are exposed to drugs, to violence, and to lack of
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welcome back to cnn newsroom, john vause, live in gaza where many people have been disappointed by announcement from the israeli prime minister in the last hour. many who were expecting possibly some kind of unilateral withdrawal by the israeli prime minister from gaza and end to the military operation, but that is not the case. benjamin netanyahu saying the mission to destroy the hamas tunnel infrastructure is almost complete, but the operation will go on. let's bring in bob bear and robert mcfadden back in for more on this. bob, you know that there was
this debate for some time in the israeli cabinet, whether or not they should go all the way, whether or not they should topple hamas, and the cabinet was split about it. there's some concern if they get rid of hamas, what comes next, they may actually miss hamas. so from your assessment, if hamas falls, what other radical groups out there could in fact take over gaza? >> john, first of all, we have to look at hamas as not an international terrorist organization, and it's in their terms, they're fairly moderate. in the mid '90s, started to car bomb israeli cities and busses, they eventually stopped that. part of it was the israelis closed them down, but they have not generally attacked targets outside of gaza. it's not that the israelis feel safe, of course, with hamas, but the question is, israeli influence is not such that they cannot replace it with a new group.
fatah, the palestinian organization, is discredited in gaza completely, which leaves you as robert brought up earlier, a bunch of disparate groups, they killed and murdered aid workers in the past, they may have taken this israeli lieutenant and captured or killed him. so they're sort of -- this is terror incognito for the terrorists and they don't have easy choice. these groups are not as tame as hezbollah, for instance. they could actually get something worse, and it is a gamble for the israelis what to do about hamas leadership. >> so robert, at that point that bob just made that, you know, hamas is fairly moderate, there's a lot of israelis that would very much disagree with that, a lot of israelis within the government in the cabinet, whenever they talk about hamas, they always mention isis, al qaeda, almost always in the same breath. in your assessment, are they in
the same league? >> well, the short answer is no as bob pointed out. hamas is exclusively for the struggle, the resistance is in its name in arabic for gaza and the west bank, going back many generations. when you're talking about destroying hamas, and i'm presuming that when they refer to that, they're talking about military or paramilitary or terrorist structure of hamas, because there's the political wing which leadership is outside gaza, mostly in qatar. so when you are talking about, you know, dismantling or doing away with hamas, does that mean that the political wing which might -- could be a stretch, maybe even preposterous, could the political wing be brought into the political process once fighting stops, so that's part of the equation that makes it extraordinarily complex. some of the other groups out
there where you have this unusual set of circumstances, depending which side of the political divide the groups are, for example, palestinian, islamic jihad, the most formidable fighting terrorist group in gaza besides hamas military wing, its leadership is in damascus. even though it is a hardcore sunni group, it stayed aligned with damascus, in alliance with hezbollah and iran, all throughout the fighting. so you have these underlying themes that make the fabric of what's going on not nearly as simple or linear as it appears. >> back to you, bob, for this one, and we'll finish on this. what has been interesting about this conflict in the last 25 days has been the division within the arab world, there are countries like egypt, jordan, saudi arabia which pretty much sided with israel because they have absolutely no love for hamas, especially egypt, which
sees it just as a palestinian version of the muslim brotherhood. i guess in some ways has netanyahu played that well? >> i think netanyahu has been very fortunate with this because hamas is the muslim brotherhood by all definitions, it just uses a different name. and i think egyptians would certainly like to see it defeated. they don't like the civilian losses but like to see the organization defeated, as would the syrians and sawudis, it is threat to those regimes. if hamas were to win this conflict, it would have repercussions across the middle east. and the only country that supports hamas is qatar, but that's sort of insignificant at this point. so you're seeing a weird alliance between the arab regimes and israel to destroy what they consider a very dangerous virus. >> and that alliance seems in
many ways is allowing benjamin netanyahu and the israeli military to continue on with this offensive, much longer than anybody really expected this to go on. robert mcfadden, thank you, bob baer, as always, thank you for being with us. we appreciate your insight. poppy, back to you. >> fascinating discussion. we're going to talk through the evening about qatar being a stand-alone in terms of supporting hamas in the arab world. we will talk about that a little later. coming up in the cnn newsroom, the struggle to reach the crash site of flight mh 17 takes a turn. teams able to reach and survey the wreckage. we will take you live to a conversation with one of the international monitors on the ground about what they have found. thank ythank you for defendiyour sacrifice. and thank you for your bravery. thank you colonel. thank you daddy. military families are uniquely thankful for many things, the legacy of usaa auto insurance can be one of them.
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finally been able to safely reach the wreckage. that has been a long time coming. day after day being turned back because of all of the violence. let's begin with this. what have your teams on the ground been able to find? >> thanks, poppy, good to be back with you. well, today was the second day where we had an unprecedented number of experts out there, over 100 australian and dutch experts in uniform with sniffer dogs and other equipment combing fields, and they for the second day did find more victim remains, and also there was an effort today to also go after some key evidence, some pieces of fuselage. that unfortunately didn't work out well, there was shelling in the area, but again, the most important thing today was to see all of that effort out there. you can imagine how the families feel now seeing that this huge effort is going on. >> we have some images to show our viewers. going to bring them on the screen as we talk about this. these photos coming from your teams on the ground there, looking at some of the wreckage
and the investigators, et cetera. 298 people on board that plane. 298 victims in all of this. and we heard this week that as many as 80 of the victims' bodies may still be at the crash site. how much time is needed for your teams to safely day-in and day-out be able to fully examine the wreckage, try to bring the bodies home? >> yeah, it is a very difficult situation to assess. probably weeks needed in an ideal situation. i can tell you, poppy, listening to the kind of orientation, pep talk yesterday that the commanders gave to teams on the ground is they said treat every day as if this is your last day on site. that front line is moving back and forth. even today, they said we got close to some live fire, had to retreat a little bit. the other thing, poppy, of course, is the terrain. you have bodies of water, woods, high grass, sunflowers fields, very difficult to find stuff
there. >> important to remember how vast this crash site is, spanning for kilometers and kilometers with different parts of the plane very far from other parts. bottom line, what does the team on the ground need most. obviously they need protection because there's killing going on within miles of where they are. what else do they need most on the ground now? >> well, the most important thing right now is to keep that safe, unhindered access going. that's basically our function as a special monitoring mission to ukraine. every day we kind of renegotiate, get that corridor if you will, for the inspectors to get in there. it requires talks on the rebel side and on the ukrainian government side. but two days in a row, tomorrow will be another day. if that holds, that will allow a lot of crucial work to be done. first of all, victim remain recovery, then slowly moving to the more criminal investigation activity of collecting the debris, crucial debris, sending it off for proper examination. >> it is certainly going to be
awhile before we know how much that evidence has been tampered with, because this is an unprecedented situation, and our hearts go out to all of the families that lost 298 people. michael, to you and your team, thank you for what you've done on the ground there. there have been a lot of sleepless nights and we appreciate it. >> thank you. coming up next in the newsroom, back to the other top story today. the first ever ebola patient arrives in the united states. right in atlanta. would you feel comfortable with the victim of this virus in your city? what is the risk, what is myth, what is reality. we're going to break it down next. ♪ (train horn) vo: wherever our trains go, the economy comes to life.
all right. a quick update on one of the day's top stories. the first of two ebola patients has arrived in the united states. it just happened a few hours ago. dr. kent brantley arriving by ambulance at emory university hospital in atlanta this afternoon. he's been taken to an isolation unit. the medical plane that flew him here is already on its way back to liberia to pick up a second ebola patient and bring that patient back here. according to the cdc brantley and wrightbold will be the first ebola patients ever to be treated in the united states. while there's no question they deserve the best health care available some are also concerned about what the potential risks are involved in bringing them to the u.s.
i want to bring in congressman adam schiff, he joins me now. i'd like to read you a statement from dr. kent brantley's wife that we just received. it says, quote, it was a relief to welcome kent home today. i spoke with him and he is glad to be back in the u.s. i am thankful to god for his safe transport and for giving him the strength to walk into the hospital. please continue praying for kent and nancy and please continue praying for the people of liberia and those who continue to serve them there. of course, these are two people that were trying to help ebola victims and then contracted it themselves. you know, we also heard that kent's parents were watching cnn earlier today and saw him be able to walk out of the ambulance which shows us a sign of where he stands and that brought them to tears, the fact that he had the ability to walk out. from what you're hearing from your constituents, congressman, what are they saying? are they comfortable with an ebola patient coming into the united states and would you be comfortable with having them in
your district? >> yes, i would be and i think my constituents are happy that he's home because the treatment will be better here. it has a greater chance of saving his life. these are very brave people that are doing a real service in a dangerous part of the world, all the more dangerous given this outbreak so i'm glad that they're home and i think we have taken great precautions and will take great precautions to quarantine these patients so that there is very little risk of spread. frankly i think, poppy, the greater risk is people coming into the country that we don't know have a virus, if not this than a different virus. that's a much greater risk and obviously we're taking precautions on that as well. >> yeah, we're showing some video right now, congressman, if you can see it, even a police officer close to that ambulance. others in relative proximity that are not in those protective gear suits, so it is important to notice our sanjay gupta has been reporting throughout that this is not easily contracted through the air virus. you have to really have
organ-to-organ or different -- it comes through secretions, saliva, blood, et cetera. that's important to note. when you talk about the decision, do you have any insight in to how this decision was made to bring dr. brantley and also his colleague back to the united states for treatment? because that decision was made behind closed doors. do you have any information on that? how that was made? >> well, i think the cdc has said that the samaritan organization in which they were serving in africa, they made the decision they wanted to bring back their two personnel, and then it was really a question of coordinating with the cdc and other health care providers to make sure that could be done safely and what the mechanism would be and i think that's the way it should be. we shouldn't preclude americans from coming home when they're sick. i think the role of government is actually to facilitate making sure that they're safe when they come home and the community is safe and i have every confidence that we can do that. we have to realize the best way to stop this outbreak is to stop it at its source in west africa and that means we are going to
need doctors there and health care personnel, so there are going to be these risks but they are very measured risks and i don't think we should be so spooked because of the novelty of this terrible virus that we turn our back on americans who are in trouble. >> it's such an important point. people have to know the facts about how this is spread and what the dangers really are, not what the perceived dangers are. we'll speak with you much more next hour and our thoughts go out to the families of both of those patients as they get the best treatment possible here in the united states. ahead here also in the newsroom more from the middle east after a quick break. hey, razor. check this out. listen up, thunder dragons, it's time to get a hotel. we can save big with priceline express deals. you know what man, these guys aint no dragons.
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tunnels they say allow hamas militants to enter israel, attack israeli troops and sneak back into gaza. israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu said a short while ago destroying those tunnels has been and remains one of his top priorities. >> translator: our forces are accomplishing the work on the tunnels. up until now tens of tunnels were destroyed. we managed to hurt severely the strategic system that hamas actually built for many years. >> all right. let's go straight to john vause in gaza, john? >> yeah, hey, poppy. well, as you say the air strikes and the operations continue here. the palestinians continue to die and that death toll does actually continue to rise as well. and, of course, closely watching all of this will be cairo, reza sayah is there.
there are these negotiations which are still going on but we've now been told that the israelis will not be turning up. the palestinians are there. so if the israelis don't turn up, reza, what's the point? >> reporter: i mean, when it comes to this conflict there are going to be no negotiations. they're not going to be any truce talks unless these two sides are sitting across the table from one another. and unfortunately that's not happening at this case. we can tell you that according to state media five representatives of the palestinians have arrived here in cairo. they are representatives of the fatah movement and members of the palestinian intelligence. state media reporting that they made their way over to egypt through jordan. we are expecting other representatives of various palestinian factions to also come to cairo but, again, if you're going to have negotiations, it's going to take both parties sitting down. and obviously israel has made clear that at this point they're
not prepared to make this trip to cairo. i think a lot of people were watching closely israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu's speech hoping perhaps that he would suggest that they are considering sending a team over here, but at this point that's not happening, john. >> okay. reza, thank you. reza sayah live for us there in cairo. poppy, we heard from the egyptian president this morning, he seemed very optimistic, he was talking not just about a possible cease-fire but maybe even finding some kind of long-term solution. >> right. >> to end the fighting but clearly that's not going to happen anytime soon. >> no. i think a lot of people were anticipating something to that, like that, from benjamin netanyahu possibly saying withdrawal of ground troops and that's not what we've heard at this point in time. john, we'll get back to you in a moment. i want to go to erin in washington. some of the live pictures in your reports earlier today of
protesters on both sides of this in the united states. what can you tell us? >> -- white house every day, but this was very different. it was big with at least several thousand people gathered in lafayette park right there outside the white house and this was rowdy and charged and heated and there was a program that went on for about an hour and a half with a number of speakers, one of those speakers led a chant essentially charging israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu of genocide and many speakers were complaining that american tax dollars were going to israel to support a massacre of palestinian civilians. the rest of the demonstration then included a march throughout washington. the demonstrators stopped at caterpillar's washington office because they are saying after israeli tanks enter gaza then caterpillar bulldozers are following those in gaza to flatten the homes there. the protest then went on to stop at "the washington post" headquarters and that was to
protest the american media especially the "post" saying they are the worst aggressor in media bias in favor of israel and then they stopped back at the white house and at each stop they had coffins, symbolic coffins, that were draped in the palestinian flag to represent the children and the adults killed in the conflict. well, then, in the midst of all of there was another protest that broke out. a demonstration of israeli supporters and they were in a small blockaded area right in front of the white house gates. waving israeli flags. but then some of the gaza supporters surrounded them at those blockades and were shouting gaza at those israeli supporters. then later the police escorted the israeli supporters out of the area because it was getting so rowdy and intention, poppy. >> all right, erin, we appreciate the report. we'll get back to you if you get any sort of statement. we're waiting for a statement from the white house responding to what israel prime minister benjamin netanyahu earlier
today. we'll let you know if we get that. thanks to reza sayah and erin mcpike. john? >> this was meant to be the second day of a cease-fire but it was shattered friday morning 90 minutes after it went into effect. there's a lot of back-and-forth between the israelis and hamas as to who, in fact, broke that cease-fire. nic robertson has been speaking to the exiled leader of hamas. he joins us live from abu dhabi. he was adamant it is not hamas who was to blame for the shattered cease-fire. >> reporter: yeah, absolutely. that was something he was very clear about, john. and we just heard from hamas issuing a statement about what their interpretation is of prime minister benjamin netanyahu's speech and address there. they say that this is an admission of defeat and an admission of defeat on his part. that's how hamas is interpreting
to break down, he was very, very clear. he said that he had told through the qatari intermediaries that they would not accept that israel could continue to destroy these tunnels. this is what he said -- there was a very clear understanding that israel would be able to during that truce destroy the tunnels and that's what they say they were doing. they say you broke the cease-fire by coming out and attacking their soldiers. they were only doing what was agreed in the truce. they blame you. >> translator: the israelis have told mr. kerry this. but we refused this israeli position. and we told that to mr. kerry and you can even check with him. we told him through the qatari foreign minister that the israeli position is unacceptable. this is because a truce is a truce. but the presence of the israeli
forces inside gaza and destroying the tunnels means it is an aggression. because they are inside the gaza territories. therefore, we told mr. kerry that the palestinian resistance has the right to self-defense and the right to deal with the invading israeli forces who are inside our gaza territories with the necessary means. we did not deceive mr. john kerry and we did not deceive the israelis. we fight honorably. we told everyone that this is our position. therefore, they are the ones who should be responsible for this. mr. kerry listened to our position carefully. >> yeah. no, i also asked him briefly about that missing israel soldier should he be given up for dead, he said no, because the brigade the military side of hamas that was involved in that operation, they may show up, there may be more information, john?
>> okay, nic, thank you, nic robertson reporting live from abu dhabi. and poppy, neither side willing to give an inch. >> no. fascinating to hear from meshal, a key figure in the hamas regime. we'll get more of nic's later this evening and, of course, on cnn.com. also back here in the united states a very important top story for us. the first time ever -- for the first time ever -- a patient with a confirmed case of ebola is now on the ground in the united states as doctors work to save dr. kent brantley and the other patient that they are right now on their way to rush back here to the u.s. we're going to speak live with our dr. sanjay gupta on the ground about the challenge ahead. ddy for defending our country. thank you for your sacrifice and thank you for your bravery. thank you colonel. thank you daddy. military families are uniquely thankful for many things, the legacy of usaa auto insurance can be one of them.
welcome back. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu left no doubt the fighting against hamas from israel's point of view is nowhere over and will not end until its job is done militarily namely shutting down the tunnels into israel and hopefully they want, of course, to bring every soldier home. let's talk about this what netanyahu said this afternoon with bob baer and also joining us is representative adam schiff, a california democratic and a senior member of the house intelligence committee. when it comes to the u.s. they have been clear, we back israel in all of this. we support benjamin netanyahu. also you heard president obama and other u.s. leaders, secretary john kerry, condemning the fact that the cease-fire was clearly broken after just a few hours and the capture of that israeli soldier. from your perspective what did you make of netanyahu's comments
today saying that there will be a regrouping, that they have significantly deteriorated hamas' cape ability but not saying what the regrouping or change of strategy will be? >> i think what the prime minister is saying is really reflective of what the israeli public wants, they want an end to the tunnel threat and i think anything short of that isn't going to satisfy israeli concerns about their own security. so, it's hard to see this ending anytime soon. the best prospect was that truce that allowed israel to continue destroying those tunnels but hamas violation of that and their inability potentially to control or enforce the cease-fire makes that pretty impractical going forward. so, my guess is israel will continue as long as it feels those tunnels are a risk. and it may go beyond that as long as that soldier is still unaccounted for. what we can do i think is stay in touch with our allies in the region. continue to talk with egypt, with mahmoud abbas of fatah, the
palestinian authority, with jordan, to get a sense of what might be the right ingredients to bring about a real, lasting cease-fire and a longer-term solution. other than that i'm not sure that there's much we can do at the moment. >> we know that representatives at least at this point in time are no longer going to cairo for the peace talks and here in the ucks ovunited states over whelmg funding for the iron dome. i want to read to you a statement we got from a senior hamas leader and he said in his statement netanyahu showed his defeat and his admission of failure of his aggression against our people in gaza. this was, moreover, a failed attempt to lift the morale of his defeated army. of course, rhetoric on both sides. but what do you make of that reaction to what netanyahu had to say? >> well, i think it's clear at this point that hamas continues to fight on.
it thinks it's fought to a stalemate in the fact that the israelis had to regroup. is in a certain sense in their terms small but important victory. i don't think hamas at this point intends to give up. i mean, they would like the israeli army to keep coming in deeper and deeper, increase the number of casualties. this is an organization frankly that's on the ropes, with the new regime in egypt, the chances of getting resupplied aren't good, with the israelis closing the tunnels they'll get what they get at this time. they'll have a very hard time rearming for the next conflict and so they're hoping for the best they can get out of it. and they frankly don't mind that netanyahu's going to continue on. >> does it matter for hamas in the long term, though, bob, that they have lost support or do not have the vocal support of almost all of the arab world outside of qatar? >> poppy, that's very important.
i think you have to look at the mess in iraq with isis, the mess in syria, we have to look at what hamas is essentially the muslim brotherhood and even isis is the most militant end of the spectrum of the muslim brotherhood and you're seeing the arabs as well as the israelis and the united states turning against political islam, sunni radicals and i think these people know it. and deep down everybody would like to see them destroyed and hamas is going to go down with them. >> all right, we appreciate it congressman adam schiff and bob baer. thank you very much. (vo) friday night has always
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welcome back, everyone, i'm poppy harlow in new york. now this, hamas as you know has a political wing and then there is its military wing as the fighting rages on between hamas and israel it's really becoming increasingly unclear which part of hamas is really in charge. our paula hancocks looks at the various groups that are posturing for control. is what israel is up against. a secretive group of well-trained killers who will stop at nothing to stop a state
they believe should not exist. this is not hamas, this is one of more than half a dozen militant groups in gaza. this group said it helped kidnap israeli soldier shalit. a perfect example why israel and its allies should be far more worried than just about hamas. >> we can't conferm, we can't deny unless we have solid information. this is a real position. if that soldier was captured by any other organization we don't have any information. >> reporter: sounding as baffled as anyone the hamas political leadership is not even in gaza. it's based in qatar. they say the occupation prevents them from going home. the reality is israel would likely target them if they did. the leader has only been to gaza once back in 2012. to effectively run gaza you have to be in gaza. another problem for hamas,
logistics. imagine an area the size of detroit with no power, little water, 1.8 million residents you can't leave being run by a group that's a shadow of its former self with a military wing worried about using cell phones that can be tracked by israel. >> internal communication within with hamas has been disrupted and they have a hard time even getting on the page internally much less bringing outside groups into line. >> reporter: despite this, israel says hamas rules the trip with an iron fist, so whoever breaks the cease-fire hamas is accountable. but the reality is more complex. islamic jihad, army of islam, just a few of the better-known groups. the question is how many more splinter groups are there that until now may have been operating under the radar? >> we know that there are jihadi groups in the gaza strip. this is the sort of environment that jihadi groups tend to thrive in. >> reporter: israel blames hamas
for sparking this latest conflict perhaps to try to force concessions. the hong longer this lasts the it becomes a life-or-death battle for hamas as well as the people of gaza. >> our thanks to paula for that important report. poppy harlow here live in new york, at the top of the hour at 5:00 eastern here a special two-hour edition of the "situation room" with wolf blitzer. he'll be live with jerusalem. but get caught up on the other huge story today, the latest on the deadly ebola outbreak and the american patient now in the united states. of course, they're on their way to bring the other american with ebola back home for treatment as well. our dr. sanjay gupta is live with all of the details, a special live edition of "sanjay gupta, m.d." straight ahead after this break. wow, this hotel is amazing. oh no. who are you? who are you? wrong answer. wait, daddy, this is blair,
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